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PostSubject: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:14 am

How does FAT LOSS IN 4 MINUTES A DAY sound to you? Good? I thought it did - especially with our aims! Smile

This is something else i dragged off T-nation (have to say, what a awesome site! So much information!!) I know it is a long read but it is definaly worth every minute. Anyway this is what it said...


A couple of years ago, a company came out with an exercise machine that guaranteed results in only four minutes a day. The main problem? The $12,000 price tag. My car doesn't cost that much. I'm not sure I've ever spent that much on anything, including my education.

Well, I'm going to save you a lot of money today because I'm going to show you how to do the same thing without an overpriced machine. This "top secret" training method may do more for you than all your other training combined and leave you with 23 hours and 56 minutes to live the rest of your day.

But there's a price to pay. Think exhaustion, vomit and pools of sweat.
(Sounds like my kinda fun! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil )


Enter the Tabata Method

Tabata is the name of a Japanese researcher who discovered an interesting way to increase both anaerobic and aerobic pathways at the same time. It's one of those strange training programs that seems to fit across disciplines: it's excellent for bicyclists, speed skaters, Olympic lifters, or the person looking to lose fat quickly.

This training method is so simple, yet so incredibly difficult, that athletes tend to try it once, acknowledge its greatness, and then vow to never speak its name again. What is it? It's simple: take one exercise and perform it in the following manner:

1) For twenty seconds, do as many repetitions as possible.

2) Rest for ten seconds

3) Repeat seven more times!

That's it! You're done in four minutes! Oh, and that thing you're trying to brush off your face? That would be the floor.

Eight sets of "as many reps as you can get done," followed with a brief ten second rest— simple and effective. The two best exercise options for the Tabata method are the front squats and the "thruster," which I'll describe in a bit.

It helps to have someone record the reps of each set for you because, well, you won't remember after you pass out. I use the "lowest rep number" of any of the eight sets as my measurement to compare workout to workout. If you go too heavy, that number might be two. If you go too light, you might find yourself getting around 15 reps or more.

Before we talk about the exercises, let's take a moment to be perfectly clear about what we're doing. This isn't "eight sets of eight," although the goal of doing eight reps in each of the twenty second clusters is about right. Instead it's "as many reps as I can get in" during the twenty seconds, followed by ten seconds rest.

And by the way, ten seconds is not racking the bar, getting a drink, talking to the cute girl on the bike, looking at the clock, walking back to the bar, chalking up, adjusting the belt, talking to a friend, then doing the next set. Ten second is ten seconds! No cheating!


Tabata Exercises

You need to choose an exercise that uses a large number of muscles. I suggest the front squat. Now, you may argue, why not the back squat? Well, it's hard to dump the bar quickly into the rack with back squats, while with front squats, you can simply fall into it and start your ten second rest.

With something like a military press, you won't be using enough muscles to allow you to survive in the last minute; you might only get one or two reps with your shoulders on fire. Deadlifts have been tried, but most people get a little worried about injuries doing them Tabata-style.

The front squat might be the single best Tabata lift. Having said that, if you don't know how to front squat correctly, the Tabata method might teach you to lift better than a thousand coaches. In the four minutes, it's easy to get 64 to 70 reps, which teaches the nervous system better than a PowerPoint presentation.

The bar will be held in the "front" of the body, with the fingers relaxed and the bar resting on the clavicles with the elbows high. Sit down "between the legs." This actually gets easier in the third and fourth minute as you just start to "drop" back through. As you rise back up, you don't need to lock out the knees; in fact, don't even think about it. Just get up and go back down.

Weight on the bar? Let's just say this: a guy with a 465 pound front squat puked with only 95 pounds on the Tabata front squat. Generally, I urge people to go "light," like 65 to 95 pounds the first time. There are those in this world who've gone up to 155 pounds and still got "eights" in the last twenty seconds, but those are very rare people!

The other great Tabata exercise is the "thruster." The thruster is one of the greatest lifts no one has ever heard of in the gym. Take two dumbbells and hold them at shoulder height. Squat down, keeping the dumbbells on the shoulders. As you rise up, press the bells to the overhead lockout position. You can either press as you rise or use the momentum to help "kick" the bells overhead. I find that I do a little bit of both in the four minutes.

Thrusters do things to your heart rate and breathing that I honestly can't describe. Go light! A 35 pound dumbbell in each hand is a very difficult thruster workout! Check your ego at the door for the first two minutes.


Tabata Tips

You need to be able to see a wall clock with a second hand during your four minutes of fun. Stop at twenty seconds, rack the bar (if you choose the front squat), rest ten seconds, grab the bar and go again. Watching the clock seems to help with the focus.

And remember this: you really shouldn't consider doing much after the Tabata workout. Your lungs will be going like a locomotive engine. Go ahead and plan anything you like, but don't be surprised if it just doesn't happen. I keep the family dog nearby to chase the carrion birds away while I rest on the sidewalk.

The hardest thing about this workout is staying focused for four minutes. Don't let your hands leave the bar or dumbbells, if you can help it. After you put the bar in the rack during the front squat, stay right there, an inch or two back from the bar, and stare at the second hand of the clock.

If you do thrusters, put the dumbbells on a bench and watch the clock with your hands ready. This little trick of staying with the weight seems to help make those ten seconds seem like, well, not much, really! But at least you don't have to move much to get the weights again.

I do either Tabata front squats or Tabata thrusters about twice a month. I'm sure someone will comment, "If it's so good, why don't you do it every day?" Go ahead, try it and report back after the second day.


240 Seconds of Pain

Why should you do this workout? The Tabata program might be the single best "fat burning workout" that I know. It might only be four minutes, but you seem to keep sweating and breathing hard for a long, long time afterwards. Moreover, it seems to teach the body the proper method of squatting far easier than all the instruction in the world.

One other thing: Tabata truly teaches a person the mental focus needed to push past pain and reach his body comp or athletic goals. It'll save you 12,000 bucks, too!



Im not too sure about doing front squats, but i will be trying a Thruster Tabata at some point this week. If its as bad as he says i know i will enjoy it!

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:26 am

All my HIIT sessions are Tabata training from beyondsixpackabs.com gotta love it . I've never been on a treadmill since

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:29 am

Im not a member of Beyondsixpackabs, what does it suggest?

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:43 pm

The routines that I do are all bodyweight exercies. 20s of work with 10s rest periods, i do that for a total of 20 - 25mins and lemme tell you it's way more intense than a run on a treadmill. You can choose any bodyweight exercises that you like, it's that simple. Try it out, it's awesome

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:46 pm

Sounds good to me, got to try it. I think i will go with Thrusters first at the weekend some point, see how much hell they release on my body!

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:49 pm

Sounds like an awesome plan of action bro, go for gold!

here's an awesome quote that i pickep up on another forum in the first challenge

"Go Big or Go Home, we are already at home so we might as well go Big"

I'm on a roll today peeps, pass the butter!! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:15 am

This definitely sounds interesting...

what kinda bodyweight exercises do you do for the tabata method?

I was thinking about push-ups, but I wonder if I can do that many that fast?!...well...it's worth a try !!! ;-)

what else would be good?

Squats
Rope-jumps

would that also work for (for example) front rowing with the elastic bands?

What suggestions could u give?

Thanks in advance...
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:32 am

Café..the best exercices for Tabata are explained in the text that Sean posted!
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:40 am

I tired doing Tabata Thrusters just over an hour after i did the 300 challenge (not the best idea i have ever had) I had a 10kg dumbell in each hand.

I did the first round (1 round = 20 seconds as many reps as possible followed by 10 seconds rest)
I did the second round
I then had to lay on the floor for a while...


...it was a killer. I plan to do it properly this weekend and see what effect it has on my body. I am determined to do AT LEAST 8 sets, but i am going to try and go for as long as possible, so if i do 10, 15, or more i wont complain!!!

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:43 am

Remember it's the first time you're doing it...see first as your body replies on normal conditions...and use is limits...don't do it on the contrary....go for the limits then try to make it easier... Cool
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:48 am

Limits? What Limits? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:52 am

Sean Ryan wrote:
Limits? What Limits? Laughing

Ok...my bad lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:47 am

Hey Xavi

I did read the post Sean posted, but I asked about alternatives to the front squat, hence bodyweight exercises, not weighted exercises.

Was just wondering what kinda exercises people had in mind when considering the tabata method.

or is everyone trying to do the weighted front squats?

I dont really want to add weights (besides the bodylastics) until I feel that my bodyweight is too light for the intensity that I would need (if u know what I mean)...
that's why I wondered if the push-ups were a valid alternative...
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:53 am

Café wrote:
Hey Xavi

I did read the post Sean posted, but I asked about alternatives to the front squat, hence bodyweight exercises, not weighted exercises.

Was just wondering what kinda exercises people had in mind when considering the tabata method.

or is everyone trying to do the weighted front squats?

I dont really want to add weights (besides the bodylastics) until I feel that my bodyweight is too light for the intensity that I would need (if u know what I mean)...
that's why I wondered if the push-ups were a valid alternative...

I think you can do Tabata with almost ANY exercise!
The big deal here are the rounds ant the rest between them! Wink

I think the front squats are the best option, because of the number of muscles they use...the most the better...but yeah...you can use any exercise you want! Cool
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:00 am

OK...;-)

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:52 am

I am not sure on which would be better to do between Front Squat or Thrusters. My logic suggests the Thrusters as it includes the squat but also takes the arms and shoulders into play with the press = full body.

If you are thinking of what bodyweight exercises you could do try full burpees (inc push-up) as that also works all the body and give an awesome workout.

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:35 am

Hey Sean...


Good idea... I hate it! lol!

Or more correctly...I hate those burpees...I will only last one set ... hehehehe scratch
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:36 am

Hahaha; i admire your honesty! Think of it this way - the reason you hate it is because it hurts to do them, meaning it works! It works every muscle, to a very high and rapid degree. I would personally name this the Bodyweight exercise of the year just because of the intensity of it!

The more you do them, the more you will hate them, but the fitter and leaner you will become. Pain and Sacrifice all the way!

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:04 am

I agree Mad

Burpees are the kind of exercise that you hate, but love doing it Razz

Jaceson posted a few days ago about doing a 'pyramid', meaning that you do 10 reps, then 9, 8, etc...
When i read that i was like 'im gonna try it, cant be that har....' then i died... Great workout though Smile

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:04 am

"I keep the family dog nearby to chase the carrion birds away while I rest on the sidewalk."
lol!

I'm going to try Tabata this weekend. Probably do burpees with pushup or thrusters. If I do thruster then I'll use either 5/7/13lbs band with an aim of 30 count per set. After 8 set I'll be burning for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:14 am

For a killer sweat dry doing mountain climbers, burpees, star jumps, high knee drills and fast drills. I do that combo for my HIIT most of the time. Duration: 20mins

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Sat May 03, 2008 5:51 pm

I'm gonna have to try it!!

Tomorrow!!!
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Mon May 05, 2008 2:57 pm

Ok, so question....is this supposed to be the complete workout? Or is it cardio AFTER my regular workout?

I did it with the dumbbells and then lost count. Didn't know if I did 8 times or not.
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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Tue May 06, 2008 2:59 am

I am Batman wrote:
Ok, so question....is this supposed to be the complete workout? Or is it cardio AFTER my regular workout?

I did it with the dumbbells and then lost count. Didn't know if I did 8 times or not.

IMO i could be either, When i did it i found it good enough for a workout. Do not forget that the length of workout does not always matter, the intensity does - and this is a high intensity exercise.

If you feel that you could do your regular workout and use this as a finisher feel free to do so.

How did you find it anyway?

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PostSubject: Re: OOOHHHHH YEAH! TABATA TRAINING!!!!   Tue May 06, 2008 6:49 pm

I was definitely winded. It was great cardio.

But, as far as building strength, I didn't think it was enough for me.

I am getting so strong from rock climbing, that I need more than just body weight exercises.

This is a good workout, and I will keep doing them, but with a little more weight. I was using 15lb. dumbbells.

MInd you, I DID feel my legs the next morning!!!!! So, it does work great....I just want MORE!!!
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